[Striker (Tony)]

Yes your right Vermin....there is many suppliers that catch these fish using those technique's.

I personaly Know the owner of the retailer who I get my supplies from......he is a very good friend of mine.....No chemicals are used only nets.....and the corals are only taken by Licensed contractors that have an area which they can retrieve corals from....

If you dont believe me Vermin come talk to my Tangs yourself...their english is a bit muffled from the water but after a while you can understand them...they are very happy with me and their home is fantastic.......if you come up just remeber to bring your eyepiece case......just bring it.....no reason....lol

Rumples Riot...i know everything about Salt water set up and maintenance...believe me if you set up your tank right in the first place their is very little need for water changes even with corals....last time I did a 1/3 water change was this time last year......and I am not going to do one this year either......
My readings 0 amonia, 0 Nitrite, 0 Nitrate, 0 Phosphate. PH 8.3.

To keep the tank constinently at this level you do need to spend money....and heaps if you want it done right...

I have a $1500 chiller that keeps my water 26 degrees constent.
I have a $1000 sump tank not main tank plus a $600 Nitruductor attached to reduce Nitrates with about 30kg of filtration material called Matrix and Siporax.......I also have a $700 protein skimmer that removes waste and adds oxygen.....plus $1200 of live rock as the basis of the tank enviroment.....add $200 for the Ozone reactor and you have a very good base to start a Marine tank...now just add about $1500 - $2000 for the fish and coral....lol....

Neally forgot I also have Metal halide lighting 2 x 250 watt 14000k bulbs plus 2 x 40 watt actinic fluro that costs about $900...a must for coral growth.

Because of my setup the only maintenance i need to do is the occasional magnet cleaner over the front and side glass...about 1 minutes worth twice a week max...and add some chemical's such as Calcium, Iodine, strontium once a week...again it takes me about a minute....obvioustly you need to feed and top up the tank with fresh water when needed.......I have 5 stage Reverse Osmosis unit so any water top up's are done with the highest water quality possible.....

So there...all I am saying is its very expensive to set up correctly but if done correctly their is virtualy hardly any cost for maintenance........and is so easy and not time consuming.....

These type of costs are only related tomarine Coral set up..if you want a marine fish only set up its much cheaper....

I recommend it....

P.S Vermin......any fish caught with arsenic normal dies within 2-6 months of capture as they can not digest their food properly from the poison.....FYI