Had a nice night! Pleanty of people who paid us a visit at the Harbour Foreshore in Newcastle. Anyway I will let the pictures do the talking.
Oh BTW, we were able to view m57 through direct lighting, bushfire haze and a almost full moon. Orions scope of poles and a 18" shaving go lo mirror and stuff just managed to resolve the disc, where as the superior Meade 12" had a fine view with sharp crisp non colourful shape well shown!!

Thanks Ed