tried firefox.. found the fact that some pages didn't look quite right real annoying, and it soon got to the point where I was using IE exclusively again. So on the next reinstall didn't bother with firefox. As to security, i dont' really random surf alot, and really only visit iis, austech, news and ebay regularly. Im also behind 2 hardware firewalls at home and use good anti vi/spy software. So i vary rarely get virus/spyware problems anymore, and even when they do occur it's usually cause Mrs.El has installed something stupid like kazaa or some other stupid p2p app, which is why i've now put her on a limited user accounts on all machines
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