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Old 09-10-2008, 11:21 AM
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May I point out Steven that I did not call my idea "a theory" re Sun spots nor have I called my ideas re gravity a theory..a theory requires certain things to be a scientific theory which I have more than once addmitted as to these requirements I am inadequate (predictions, math etc)... my thoughts on gravity are ideas and I have always said so...I would never call my ideas a theory because I have seen the use of the word corrupted ...as in say in the case of calling the "idea" re "inflation" a theory..it is not a theory other than in the way a layman would use the word..it is an idea, it is no matter how important for the big bang still an idea..so why let it be called a thoery...why? ... however given that the idea of inflation was really needed to save the big bang it was quickly elevated to the status of theory... now Steven you like having a go at things that I say that you feel are wrong well if I am wrong with my assessment of the "inflation theory" please say so... your views have as much right as mine to be aired.. I have made a claim and I welcome your efforts to reject it...and if inflation is only an idea the steady state theory has as much right to presentation as does the big bang theory..
Alex,

There are theories and there are thought experiments (or ideas).

In the simplest terms a theory is a concept to explain observation or experimental data. It may also allow specific predictions to be made which can be later verified by observation or experiment.

The BB falls into this category. The theory and the mathematics of the BB is built around the observation that galaxies are moving away from us. The Cosmic Radiation Background was predicted in 1948 and verified in 1965. The BB also correctly predicted the percentage breakdown of Hydrogen and Helium in our Universe.

A thought experiment in Physics can involve extrapolating theory into areas that cannot be defined by observation or experiment. A good example is time travel through wormholes.

The important point about thought experiments is that the laws of physics are not violated.

Unfortunately your ideas are not even thought experiments as they consistantly violate even the most basic principles in Physics.

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Maybe I missed the experiments offerred in support of the "inflation theory" and am happy to be informed that I am not up to speed on what they have done to establish their idea as a theory.

I am not against the big bang as such but from my view no one asks the hard questions..it is accepted as fact...I think there has to be a better way to arrive at what inflation seeks to solve however by blindly accepting the idea without testing then a more valid answer may escape us simply because we accepted an idea with no support.
You continuously bring up inflation theory as a way of saving the BB. May I suggest you read up on the subject. The whole point of inflation theory is to explain why the Universe ended up flat. The BB predicts three possibilities for the Universe, open, flat or closed depending on it's density.
Inflation theory is an outcome of the BB.

There are some scientists that claim we don't even need inflation theory by invoking the Anthropic principle. If the Universe wasn't flat we wouldn't be here to observe it.

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I dont throw out the big bang but I think they have been hasty in accepting evidence as clear support, background radiation for example is cited as absolute support and yet the aspect of galaxy shadowing has not been addressed as far as I know....
This is what I found on the net regarding galaxy shadowing.
http://www.physorg.com/news76314500.html

If the microwave background is not the result of the BB and is closer to us, than the resultant background must be caused by photons being emitted by some form of intervening matter.

Galaxy clusters behind the background would have their photons scattered by this matter much like the effect of interstellar reddening. If this is not observed it is unlikely the cluster is behind the background.

If this is so the problem lies with the data or the theory about galaxy shadowing.

Regards

Steven
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