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Les, another approach is using a laser pointer to direct the scope. (Lots of issues here around prohibited weapons, safe usage, upsetting other observers or particularly astrophotographer folks! Search the threads on this site.) However, I found that with laser aligned well, I could point the scope accurately enough relative to the stars that I could see naked eye, to have my object in a 30mm eyepiece field. You need to have a good sense of location in the sky relative to the star chart or planetarium view on your computer screen.