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Old 28-08-2008, 01:55 PM
Karls48 (Karl)
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Hi Geoff, is not modern cosmology and theoretical physics wonderful? It can explain everything in whole universe.
So our two ships are receding from the Earth at speed of light or even faster. It seems to be confirmed observable fact (based on red shift) that more distant the galaxy is, faster it will recede from us. At some distance it will recede from as at speed of light and faster. If we take some distant galaxy that is receding from us at 70% of light speed and launch our spaceships at 35% of light speed from there, those ships would be travelling faster then the light relative to the earth and therefore backwards in time. Impossible, according to theory of Relativity. Relative to the galaxy the ships started from, nothing special will be taking place. This scenario (and some other things like massive monopoles that supposed to exist just after Big Bang) would render theory of relativity invalid. To salvage the theory our wonderful scientists invented assumption that the space itself is expanding. Not proven by any experiment, except other assumption that speed of light is constant in vacuum and ultimate speed that anything can move. So although some object in the universe appears to travel faster then light, according to current scientific dogma those object are travelling slower then speed of light but space between it and the Earth is expanding and therefore it appears that it is travelling faster then light. Well. Because of obvious problem with this assumption (the Earth and the rest of the solar system planets should be getting farther apart from each other) space expands only between objects that are not gravitationally bound. As no one come up yet with explanation of mechanisms that cause such a phenomena scientist have to invent other mysterious things as Dark Matter and Dark Energy. So we have Space that can be bend (curved), stretched, compressed (as it did not existed before Big Bang so it must be either compressed inside of object that exploded as Big Bang or created by some sort of conversion of matter/energy to space). It is then logical to assume that it can be also converted back to what it was before Big Bang. Where the Theory of Relativity stands on this? What is the speed of light in Dark matter?
At any given point in time in our history the intellectual elite of the society (shamans, priests, scientists) was absolutely convinced that they have all the answers to everything that is surrounding us, that what we consider as Universe today. And almost without exception their observations on which they based their conclusions were based on assumption that the earth is the centre of the Universe. Nothing really changed even today. We assume that basic law of nature that we observe here are universal and work everywhere. Well what about the Black holes? According to the scientists the laws of nature will break down inside of black hole and cannot work as they do elsewhere in the Universe. So logically – either Black holes don’t exist or universality of laws of nature is wrong.
Back to our two spaceships. The Enterprise is chasing Kiligons spaceship. Relative to the Earth the ships are receding at 105% of light speed but because of space expansion assumption they move only at 35% of light speed and therefore they exist as real object. From ships frame of reference ships are 500m apart and nothing unusual is taking place. Booth ships main weapons systems and engines are damaged so Capt. Kirk finds somewhere old M16 and order Scotty to mount the rifle in ships nose. Kiligons do same mounting similar rifle in rear section of their ship. Ships commence firing on each other. With every shot the Enterprise fires, rifle recoil will slow it down. Every time the Enterprise is struck by Kiligons bullet it will slow down even more. Exactly opposite will happen to Kiligons ship as they fire on Enterprise and are struck by the bullets from Enterprise. They will accelerate away from the Enterprise. Eventually the Enterprise will not be able to hit Kiligons ship as it will be moving faster then the bullets fired from the Enterprise. Also both ships will not be able to hit each other as the distance between them increase. No rifle will shoot consistently in same spot, the spread of shots over the large distance will cause bullets to miss. That’s applied science and it works. Theoretical science, especially in cosmology requires one important element. You have to believe in what it is telling you. Well, you may just as well believe in creation.
And one last thought about the high mathematics. Mathematicians can calculate temperature and size of the Universe milliseconds after the Big Bang (among other amazing things). Just ask them to calculate flip of the coin (head or tails). They will fail miserably. Although such event is taking place in same universe and is influenced by same law of nature with enormously smaller number of variables and possibilities. Make your conclusion about such mathematical proofs.
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