Dave,

Yup! just thought I would mention that. Saxon are just Sky Watcher's painted black. On Saxon's website (not sure if they still do) even most of their catalogue is in sky watcher blue. So I did some research and found they are the same just ordered by two different distributers.

It's the same with the Celestron Dob's for $2000.00+ for their 12" or you could just buy GSO's off Andrews or Bintel for half the price for the same scope pritty much, just a different colour

regards