Thanks guys nice informative posts.
I had cdc run my heq5 mount once with the ascom platform and eqmod driver with vista but the next night nothing couldn't connect.
ended up spending 2 days installing uninstalling tring to get connection in the end I bit the bullet and tossed vista of the lappy after much finding of drivers and put winxp on and what a difference cdc and ascom with eqmod drivers went on and worked first go and it has been fun learning scope controls.Just got a cheap game pad and now moving the mount with it wwhiirrrrrrr wwhiiirrrrrrr
thanks again guys will look into some more software.