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Old 21-06-2008, 03:47 PM
Paul Hatchman
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Yes I have read the articles on cold fusion. I know how hard it is to measure and such....plus you've taken what I said out of context by leaving out some of what I have said.
It is not not my intention to misrepresent what you are saying. I don't understand, if one one hand you are saying that a group of companies through MIT are suppressing positive cold fusion results, but on the other hand, there are 600 successful replications, how that doesn't equal a big fraudulent conspiracy. That is a lot of scientists to keep quiet. If I've misunderstood, please jump in.

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And no, I didn't accuse them of deliberate fraud, myself. However it's come to light that their conduct in the matter has had a lot left to be desired. Plus, it's not thousands of physicists....just those involved with the "hot fusion" lobby and those institutes which have a vested interest in funding for such work.
So you are not claiming fraud, but just insinuating it?

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Go and type cold fusion into Google and you'll see what's been happening. Even wikipedia has an interesting article on cold fusion.
I think we'll have to disagree on where the evidence points.

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Scientist are people, Paul. If their livelyhoods and such are threatened by something new, which maybe somewhat way out there (in this case), then they'll do anything to protect themselves, their reputations and the status quo.
Totally disagree. Science thrives on the new. Most of the top physicists are tenured to their university and have jobs for life. I would agree with you that ego can get in the way, but not that their livelihoods are threatened. It is not like they get a cut of any grants they bring in. The only way I can think it would colour their judgement is that grants let them buy better, shinier toys to play with etc.

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