Don't have the Jug or the Ghost of Jupiter, but I challenge someone else with a 4" instrument or less to nail a nearly 17 mag galaxy for a bit of fun.
Here's my effort -
Mag 16.9 galaxy using a 4" F/5 instrument. I distinctly remember taking this image. The night was extremely frosty with stable seeing conditions. Rather rare.
Original image. The joys of shooting from a rural dark sky and imaging the object as it crosses the meridian.