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Hi Tony
Should be visable with a 12" and a H beta filter without too much trouble , if you don't have a H beta filter , try a UHC or similar which will help a lot ( OIII is no good ).
Knowning exactly where to look is a big help , my first viewing I used a photo at the telescope to find it , look for a dark lump in front of a ribbon of dark grey.
If you cant see the flame nebula don't bother the HH is a least twice as difficult.
Through the 24" and a Hb its not difficult at all
Zane
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