Cheers Guys
The TV85 never fails to impress me. It seems to punch above its weight with things. I had a trip around the sky last night with it and the 35mm panoptic and it was a joy to look at with the wide fields. Eric as you say just to nail the collomation on the mewlon. It been so long since i have had clear sky's and when it is I am either away from home with work or something on that night. I should have taken a picture of the scope with the x4 power mate and panoptic in. Its nearly half the lenth of the scope in height
Ian