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Jase, there is no fooling you is there? Really appreciate the feedcak though...
You are quite right the noise comes up if I don't clip a little. I will try once more but I did spend quite a while on trying to optimise - and felt I had got to a reasonable result with the nebulosity mid tones - the bright stars are bloated and the faint detail showed noise.
I think I will need to use the multi-zone technique or as you say shoot at lower iso for longer.
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