Andrew that is very well put and I do not disagree ...on my first reading... but I will try to find something when I go thru it again



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You brought me up to speed with the Creationist view..although I know they have that 4004bc thing I just cant take it on board, but its there isnt it...
and I sat with a creationist to see a movie showing how sedimentary rock could form in a matter of years not millions...I did not buy it but if you were a believer this would be your scientific proof as it were...
I am not religious but I sometimes recognise it is in the mix.
My hobby horse with gravity pushing has lead me to believe it was no oversite that Newton left the force of Gravity to God or that Dr A simply side stepped the issue without attributing any force to gravity,,it is the math doing it not me....neither approach could offend the Church by trying to take away from the dogma... I expect that having God managing the force of gravity was OK by the Church...but Newton obviously thought about it given one of the advocates of push gravity was in his circle or associated with Newton. AND although I like to think Newton was a closet gravity push supporter my point is he must have thought about the force.. he was that kinda guy... he would have considered the machinery but come down with the view that he better steer away from saying there was a force other than God...I forget the name of the chap into push gravity in Newton's day and set but I recall the church hunted him down and his followers because of some as they saw negaitive influence with children...must go back and refresh those "facts"...
Again I point to the "revealed problems with background radiation" as being the nail in the big bang coffin... the sort of thing you point out..Uni of Alabama I recall..would the far right have any one in Alabama... I can only guesss.
I cant go further than the cork really I bob up and down and dont go anywheres but I dont have any axe to grind jsut raise my concerns...but the observation re our mate seems valid...well possibly from the little I know about the matter.
In fact I believe the big bang supports the notion of God.. Creation gives 6 days and Professor Guth via his inflation idea gives it 30 seconds..but the story line is similar..and what I dont like about the big bang in general terms is that is takes one to a point where God seems like the only answer to take you (or at least some) past the starting point...and thats why I like an infinite Universe..you never get to that point.... but to have an each way bet I say that if there is a God would he and thereofre the Universe be infinite.
Again they are all wrong I dont trust anyone to have the answers...
well I do have the answers but if you say that folk think you are up yourself



I am the first to admit I am wrong but fortunately I have not seen the need yet
Anyways great post thanks for sharing some time and thoughts I really enjoyed it.
alex

