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Hi Scooter,
Patrick's comments re averted version are something to keep in mind when chasing dim targets like galaxies. That having been said the two galaxies you are chasing in this case (M83 and M104) are very bright galaxies compared to most other galaxies. From dark skies you will see them very easily with direct vision in a 12" scope at low power. They are both in fact easily visible in my 10X42 binoculars from dark skies.
Cheers,
John B
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