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Many thanks all
A very good description of the objects AJames
heres images Ive assembled from the ESO DSS data, specifically assigning red as red, infrared as green and blue as blue. Even on the DSS We De 1 is VERY faint.
Amazing what a consumer DSLR admittidly HA IR modified, operating at room temperature, can do, in the confines of a light polluted area
Scott
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