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A problem this thread raises is the inadequacy of the English language in describing the meaning of obscure, counter-intuative concepts such as 10 dimensional space, the concept of "before" the BB, given time started then rendering "before" meaningless, and "something" out of "nothing". Math does this eloquently (apparently ;-). But for us plebs trying to get our heads around this, common "language" is woefully inadequate.
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