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Old 20-01-2008, 02:21 PM
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Thanks Steve for sticking up for me.

But nothing Night Owl has said do I find offensive in fact I like it when someone opens up and feels they can add to the subject under discussion.

To Night Owl I did not say I was a non meat eater ... as I said I love all creatures but some I prefer cooked...and in fact as I was eating my chicken last night there was a point where I looked at it and imagined the day it was a live creature being grown for no other purpose than to gain my respect er love... but don't think I did not feel that I too could be a little hypocritical given the thoughts I shared in this thread.

I don't know which matters you would really like me to talk further upon but I take it as a general matter that my personal views stimulated much of your reply...and believe me I liked it.. I did not find it insulting and say however that in reading Steve's comments it made me think folk may see it that way..but dont you worry about that I did not take it personally what else could you say really.

You have opinions and that is fine I dont think we have an issue there at all...

But perhaps if for a moment you could see my anguish for folk who like to kill things and use other reasons to justify their actions..and just recognise that is the way I feel..it does not mean I am right.. but it is the way I feel about killing of animals and things generally.... And I recognise its one of those things that if you like to kill I would imagine it will get a rise out of you ... thats good ...also justify killing of ferals as much as you want as it will dilute the thurst of the point I seek to make...no problems with me at all...but I will still call killing wrong and those who kill I will accuse them of having a lust for it... I hope you have no problem with that.

I would like you to expand on the specifics of the kills if it helps you explain yourself.

I can identify with how my statements must upsets you...lust for killing..well I agree they are strong words...but if you kill over and over irrespective of the justification what else can one call it but a lust to kill...

I know it sounds bad but I feel that is the way it is..and I said so...you feel the way you do and you said so...that is the way it should be...

I live on 200 acres of mountain bushland away from the realities of the world somewhat a paradise really... I respect and love the creatures around the place and fortunately there are no feral animals as I think the environment is too hard for them... and to be honest not having to face the problem you see is both a blessing for me but no doubt takes my mind away from the real problem some introduced species present in various areas. I have 3 dogs but no cats and fortunately have not seen a wild cat..we still have dingoes but I dont think you could call them a feral animal...still so many folk want to shot them and they do no damage around here at all...

I wish I was firing on all cylinders today and could provide you with a better response but in truth I am a little flat today...sorry.

I liked your inference that the sixties were at time when I like many of that era that I enjoyed the flower power life style and as much as I would like to say yes I had a great time wish I could remember unfortunately I can not say that I got into the flower power thing and all that..I lead a very normal and quiet life..working during the day studying at night I did not even have a weekend hobby ..I was sortta a nurd by anyaccont..then followed getting married raising my first batch of kids and managing a business... I did not have a drink until I was 24 years old would you believe.

I too am frustrated that the world is not perfect I know that but I simply do not like to see things killed as if it were a duty by the person who has taken upon themselves a course that by their personal vendetta that they will make things right. Mainly because that view is delusional any action to fix the feral problem needs a better approach and I feel that a reasonable person must accept that is sadly the case.

But I would encourage you given the various things that you see wrong in the world not to think that as they are present that you can justify killing of a feral just because it is unfortunate enough that they findthemselves having to fend for itself...

Now before I go I must say this... my grandfather always told me that if I started a fight I would get a flogging.... but if I found myself in a fight and I lost I would get a worse flogging... but I love to fight so throw me some punches so I can say you started it.

Yours was a good post.
alex
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