When Phil announced he had it, I was convinced he was delusional. He had been muttering about flock this and flock that (pretty sure that was what he was saying....
...). Anyway, I'd been on a 25" at Coona with a UHC and NOT seen the thing even knowing it was there, so it was fairly impressive that this 14" pulled it in. Combination of the top end mirror and it's condition (collimated, cooled, etc) the sky, and the EP, as Phil suggested.
I might just check that Zeiss out....since I can see the HHN back home in the US in a few areas lacking city sky glow...
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