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Originally Posted by BIG BEN
wouldnt this jet stream be going faster than the speed of light, to escape the black hole, if it was going close to the speed of light the jet stream should have a bend in it wouldnt it???
becuse a black hole has so much energy that light it self can not escape
then that must mean that this jet stream is going faster than the speed of light.
any way tell me if this sounds stupid, im just a beginer to astronomy. 
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Well our current understanding tells us that if part of these jets consist of matter which qualifies it as having mass then the speed of light is beyond it... however the material travells very fast and apparently at some larg fraction of C.
I think jets must follow a vortex strusture... because of my belief there are no black holes but in their place a binary system that can produce a vortex.. two bodies orbiting each other can only produce a vortex...anyways if one looks at various binaries that produce jets they finally are seen to become vortexual in structure when a long way from their host... all I suggest is at some stage anymaterial in this vortex will interact ith material it reaches in space..some in effect the jet will gather additional mass... I speculate that this vortex finally will fall back to the host galaxy ..think of how wide this vortex structure will become as it reaches furthe out..but eventaully it will come back to the host galaxy..not tight and neat as it left but now tih a diameter perhaps larger than the galaxy it left...when it falls back it will fall like a coiled rope I feel and perhaps explain the spiral structure of a spiral galaxy.... think of spraying a garden hose into the air so one sends a spiral of water skywards..how will it fall back to Earth and how far away from its source will it fall....... now if the water from the hose were able to pick up moisture from the air before it fell back that would replicate the propostion I suggest may be the case with the jets we see from so many spiral galaxies.. the water gathering up stuff to bring back to the original source.
What you say does not sound stupid at all ... it sounds as if you at least think of what is before you..that can never be stupid....Just because one is a beginner does not prevent a specualtion upon what may be happening
alex

