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Old 25-11-2007, 02:49 PM
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g__day (Matthew)
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I agree - but will be quick to point out - destroying matters that may be linked to a suite is dangerous. Deleting warnings that might stop others from incuring loss is dangerous.

Remove - yes - Delete NO!

Which dangers do you want cover from and which don't you? The protection Matt and others want is clear (and very reasonable) - the way he is thinking about achieving this might expose him to more risk than a layperson intuits - as Australain examples in the financial services sector showed last year - when brokers where named for giving bad advice, potential defamatory comments where made - comments where struck down - the lawyers supeonaed the comments - they couldn't be provided - there was dispute over which acts covered internet web sites - the site then became liable for deleting the posts - in a word mess!

I wonder if you'd be better off with a disclaimer recognising the site allows you to relate experiences, ask question and hear opinions - but warrants none of the advice given nor expressly or implied shares views and opinions stated.

Could the right type of disclaimer - copied from a major web site e.g. is below


This sites been active for many years (and around 3,000,000 posts) - I think we hammered out the rules reasonably well, and given a publisher owns it - their lawyers worked out the right sort of language to cover the risks of otherwise good folk doing something idiotic. Initially they were saying delete bad stuff - until they realised this was potential destroying discoverable evidence...

Enhance your disclaimer and terms of acceptable usage to minimise any third party liability

From common usage policy of major publishers - to indemnify them (note they use remove - not delete offensive material!) ...

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