Thanks all
The venue is here
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=e...=16&iwloc=addr
Go thru a locked gate that we have a key for at the very end of Mcarthur St Shortland. Going to the satellite view will show a trail leading to a round mown area in the grass (looks like a crop circle). Though not a black country location it is darker then my place and has a better horizon then my place in most parts. 2WD in but can get boggy if wet.
Scott