Thanks Ric.
The set up runs unguided for 200 seconds sometimes???
There is still lots of work to be done but I am very happy so far.
Here is a M83 again 30 seconds... this is cropped from a much larger image from the original stack but I have lost that one and have to stack it again... but this was something I was playing with that survived

. Try and overlook the color I was trying to get detail and I cant tell what it is now
alex