I used to live in a relatively dark sky suburb until a few months ago about 32kms from centre of Perth. When I lived there I only had SkyWatcher 10 and 25mm Super Plossl's, a Meade 26mm Series 4000 and a ( cheap ) Celestron 4mm Plossl. My scope was a SkyWatcher 200mm F5 Newtonian and my views of DSO's were great ( due to dark sky ), planets not too bad at 100x. Now I live about 2-3kms from the City centre ( lots of skyglow ) but have recently purchased Vixen LV 4mm and 20mm eyepieces. DSO visual nebulosity is very faint here ( a bit better with Baader 1.25" UHCs filter ) but with the Vixen eyepieces I have never seen such detail on Saturn and Jupiter before. I have also bought a SW 254mm F4.7 Newt ( 1200mm focal length ) so with that scope I have had great views of the planets and moon at 300x with the Vixen LV 4mm. The LV 20mm gives crystal clear, sharp images when combined with my SW 2x Barlow ( 120x ) and also on it's own ( 60x ).
When you get down to it ...... ideal setup ...... DARK SKIES and GOOD QUALITY EYEPIECES.
p.s. I have not experienced that combo yet.
