[DobDobDob (Ron)]

Alex, I have a good idea, let's ask the question in reverse, so that we may go forward. What evidence would you accept that a Black Hole exists, what would need to happen to convince you?

You tell me that and I'll research all available known, published data and see if what you require actually exists.

The reason I am putting this to you is because despite owning a mind of my own and acknowledging you also have a very fine one, it seems to me that the majority of educated people, astro astrophysicist's, cosmologists, professors at Uni's and popular authors, all seem (rightly or wrongly) to have accepted that Black Holes are real.

The general basis of the belief is that there is observational evidence of the effects of a black hole but by design a black hole itself cannot be directly observed, however I recall reading just last week that a Black Hole telescope is almost ready to be commissioned.

Anyway, back to the question, what do you need by way of evidence, let me know and as an exercise I will try to find if it exists. Please do not say that a human has seen one or visited one, because that is obviously not possible yet.

This is not a challenge or taunt, it's a manoeuvre designed to align our paths down the astronomical road that we are both walking along, however currently in different directions