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Originally Posted by xelasnave

In your Universe one would expect the Moon to be getting closer to the Earth not moving away... maybe its being pushed away or is following a bend in space time I dont know but in a cycle such as you suggest it would seem the Moon could be orbiting closer as time passes.. to speed up the black hole gobble up in an efficient manner...the Earth doing the right thing and merging with the Moon for a take away down the track... maybe.

Hi Alex, just a quick rely to one of your points above. I never said or implied that the moon would or would not have any effect, I see this Solar system as a self contained unit, with it's own gravitational forces, which keeps it's equilibrium, as we observe.

True the solar system is a part of the universe as a whole, but far too small a part to impact the whole in any significant manner.

To understand this using a human body as an example, lets say your left index finger is the Solar system, which is part of your hand, which is the Milky Way galaxy, which is part of the universe, your entire body.

Just because you cut your left index fingers nail (a dramatic event from your fingers point of view), it hardly impacts your hand and has virtually no apparent effect on your body as a whole.

You must observe the relativity of things, of systems for what they are. The example of our moon to Earth as compared to the entire gravitational forces keeping the universe on a steady keel, are just too insignificant to warrant a mention.

I hope this helps

I'll go through the rest of your most recent reply when more time permits. Finally, I have never asked you to agree with me, in fact I know my model is full of 'Holes' of any colour, but the point of the entire exercise is to stimulate my own mind and hopefully those of any readers. I once again must say that I am open to reason and logic, prefer science fact but adore imagination