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Yes, irrelevant and no.
Occams Razor works for me to cut away all that hides my Universe.
I find it unacceptable that such a small amount of time has been allocated to our Universe when presumably there is so much more available... 14 billion years is nothing really when measured against say a trillion.
It makes no sense to me to place such a limit upon it which is derived from human dabling at the issue. Particularly when galaxies pop up that simply dont fit the time frame. I understand it there are stars that say they are older than the big bang Universe age??? maybe wrong, maybe data is corrupt maybe who wrote the things I have read are uninformed..
It is not easy to determine why certain ideas are followed so strongly but I fear if something threatens the big bang approach it is dispatched promptly..even if it takes a fanciful notion such as inflation to do so..
Why can inflation be so readily accepted I have no idea .. I am only human but this does not limit me from calling a proposition, requiring all we know about (the observable Universe) at some stage, growing at a trillion times in a split second..unreasonable.
I say that is unreasonable others say it is not... I can not prove I am right and I doubt if they will prove inflation as a fact..ever to my satisfaction. I find it extrodinary that they wish to try given that the data will be somewhat "old" but they will and I suspect they will find the proof.. because that is waht they expect to find.
But Ron it is a matter of views ..you have yours I have mine and they are not the only explanations of creation or non creation available I expect.
It will irritate folk that I dont buy what is on offer given all the science to prove their point but they are best seeing that as my problem.. not theirs... and let me drown in my ignorance of the science..still I say that I read a lot and never like to sound as though I know more than I do but I am not as uninformed I suspect many think I am.
I do find however by asking questions one gets closer somehow to at least assessing why folk believe what they do which is more relevant to me than what may or may not be so.
I simply think that the idea of singularity is wrong.
It is so convenient to cop out of working for a better answer I feel.
I see singularity as a concept born of speculation on paper using geometry to describe boundaries arrived at by extrapolation of observations that may indeed have other explanations.
No one will have it that the Universe may not be expanding because of their preference of interpretation of the observation.
Dr A was of a different view until Mr Hubble made his observations public.
What would Dr A have found if such information had not been accepted and the doppler effect considered may not be appropriate when dealing with vast distances.
The big bang is supposedly tidy but so is Lord of the Rings however the story line may have little to do with the reality.
It makes sense only if you are a small human wanting to define your exsitence and intelect to answer unanswerable questions.
I am seen as strange because I refuse to accept what has been accepted by others ... but to me it is no more than being outcast by mob rule, unkind but lets face it there is no alternate view to the big bang and given the short comings of the idea I find this strange.
If you hold another view it is asked to provide the most sound proof, yet say with the big bang idea when a problem is reached another idea is added to support it and hold it from drowning.
I find it impossible to give any credibility to the concept of inflation... yet such a long stretch is eagerly grasped by all who wish the Universe to have a start and an end...without inflation the big bang idea has serious problems.
Maybe drop inflation and fix the problems with something believable may be a better approach.
When inflation was first floated it was seen as a little over the top but in time (20 yrs I think) it was the best available to save the big bang so inflation was installed. It is possible by math.. but maybe other things are also possible.
If one has a system that requires an idea , followed by an prediction, followed by observation do you not conceed to observations will possibly fit the things being sought.
I feel that is the problem.
I can not suggest better but that does not mean that such a system may lead us to one conclusion very fast without other conclusions even being considered.
Major problems present with the big bang idea but it is held onto as if there can be no other alternative... to support an idea so strongly has advantages but may see all information guided to support the original idea.
We think we know it all and the big bang is it, I simply say it may have been a good idea at the time but really if we look at the problems perhaps other ideas should get equal time.
Just as I could not convert the whole of the Catholic Church to Non belief I can neither convert those, who believe the big bang is it, to see any other alternative.
That is the way it is.
But also the whole Catholic Church can not convert me to their thinking nor can the whole big bang movement convert me to their way of thinking... And I know there is evidence (both will provide to support a conversion)..
I am happy to comment upon item by item offerring my foolish and unscientific explanations and many will laugh but my views are considered whereas many take what they are told without any consideration that it may or may not be valid.
Why should a point be reached where another set of rules take over as we expect with singularity.. it makes no sense to me ..it sounds neat but it is so untidy I reject the notion.. AND it is no good saying but our science can not explain past a certain point if that point opf itself is unreasonable.. why should the laws break down..only to suit humans that all.. I doubt if nature deals iwth things in such a manner...
I do not accept that matter can pop into and out of existence that there is some sort of "other" side or that there are multiple Universes..that does not mean I am correct or incorrect it is simply my view... suported only by my lodgic and presumably will make perfect sense to me but not to others.
Still I like to know accepted thinking and enjoy any futher explanation of the big bang Universe or the Doughnut Universe.
So I hope this has qualified for others your observation that I am indeed weird in my thinking.... but that I think nevertheless.
Best wishes with your Universe and all others I hope my observations firm your beliefs rather than erroding them.
alex
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