Thanks for the map, though I have pretty much the same thing from Xephem. I was probably just being a bit useless. I was expecting to be able to see the objects in the finderscope, but didn't seem to be able to. perhaps because the mag 7 is spread out over 11 arcmins, so they're pretty dim? Anyway, scanning around the area with a 35mm eyepiece in the scope didn't help either. Probably a mag 7 star chart at the eyepiece is the way for me to go....
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