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Brad said..........
By dismissing and not even entertaining or experimenting with the notion of 'irreducible complexity', the main point of ID, would be unscientific don't you think? If you still think it has no merit then take out 'both'* of your kidneys *how exactly did we end up with two?? Why two???
I have been wondering why two kidneys... clever really as one can opperate on one and give/sell the other.. that makes sence to me.
I cant wait for the "next" design of humans to appear as I have the silent expectation that vital organs like the heart can be duplicated. Haveing a spare kidney is indeed an inteligent design so given the role of the heart in our system carring this concept over to areas of the heart would indeed be intelligent.
Two brains would be good but given many dont use the one they have probably means no real need is seen in that department, but two hearts makes for a very intelligent design.
By asking what you suggest can be done I was hoping for your input as to how we can arrive at a situation where all can be happy with the final result and all in our happy community agree to disagree and put something in place that all can live with..
I still encourage your suggestions.
I sence that the main objection that creationists have to the concept of evolution is not that it contridicts the Bible but that they may be related to apes.. certainly there is plenty of evidence of such an objection as being one of the stumbling blocks to acceptance of evolution... this is an ego thing on their part.. and certainly understandable. For myself I see humans as animals first so I have no objection to think great great great grandfather was an ape... after all I do "monkey" around a fair bit ..so why not.. Given the very real similarities between us and chimps do intelligent design folk see the chimp as a proto type of the human or the human as a proto type of the chimp.
Now there I go cant resist a little jab.. but take it in good humour and focus on a solution to finding a way we can bring everyone to a happy solution of solving the current problem. AND it is a problem for those Mums and Dads who feel left out, one if no solution is forthcoming can only get worse and fundamentalists on all sides simply burn energy in the "is is not game". Lets design an intelligent plan to arrive at a solution.
I ask all rather than looking for holes in the other sides armour lets seek a common ground and a system that respects the various views.
In addition I bet everyone who has had their say herein feel better having the opportunity to state their case... Poor Andrew and other moderators do you have any finger nails left, and those poor folk who cant tolerate me talking nonsence probably have given themselves manual mohawks by now...
AND to those who question why discuss this at all I say this...because we can ..simply because we can.
Peace to all men, all people of the world and all animals be they great or small.
alex
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