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Doug said.........
Alex, you admit to having read the Bible cover to cover, ok fine believe me when I tell you that if I picked up a book on the 'Law of Tortes' and read it from cover to cover I would still know or understand nothing of any value about its contents.
Dough I find that difficult to accept as my impression of you is you are no fool with excellent powers of comprehension and deduction. Torts is perhaps the easiest thing in law to grasp.. it all turns on one person owing others a duty of care.. a simple effort by the law to set forth responsibilities of one person to another.
As with any book dealing with English law (and for this purpose English law is Australian law) it is written in English and I doubt beyond your ability to comprehend but if it is this way for you your presumed inability is no guide as to my ability to understand the words set out in the bible. I wont produce examples to prove the aspects of nonsence I alude to..as that is counter productive to my effort here to bring the concerns of one side to the other. But I suggest this proposition for your consideration... books are written to convey ideas and thoughts, if the bible unsuccefully does this I dont think I can be blamed for not getting it.(and I wont accept that I miss anything).it is clearly the fault of the writer(s) who if seeking to record fact or thought owe a duty of care that they responsibly set out the matters to be conveyed in a manner that it can be read and reasonably understood by those who take the time to read it.. I dont need to be a priest as I can read and write. Some, given my slack attention to spelling, may say the art of reading and writting is indeed beyond me..but not so.. after all if with my background it (the Bible) presents areas open for ridicule to me one could say then of what use is same to convey meaning to anyone else.. you are not suggesting that one must read past what is written and place a different meaning to that delivered.. if you do I say it is of no use for then the meaning can only be drawn out by ones personal additional input. Still to put a finer point upon your observation I was not commenting that I could not understand it (I think that was the case)..I say that I can understand what is written and there are many examples of nonsence, and many examples that one can place any meaning one cares to...horsemen etc is inappropriate metaphore leaving open the door to varied interpretations.. and as such meaningless one could argue.
But it is not particularly relevant to the overall proposition I propose of all in making an effort to solve the problem faced by the Mums and Dads with children at a school supporting their faith.
My point is nothwithstanding the "is and isnt" cries herein a problem exists very much along the lines I suggest. I am seeking a reasonable result for reasonable people. It seems that I alone seek such a possibility and others wish to carry on with the "is isnt" game... that wont move things forward.
Jesus teaches us to love your fellow man..love is respect. I seek a result for those who feel their voices are not heard . It is not easy for me given my personal views as expressed but notwithstanding those views I still seek a solution.. I am not trying to be cute and although many of my words may seem so I still say I offer respect to those who are not happy with evolution undermining their views and more important the method they have choosen to educate their children.
But feel free to pull me up if you think I am slipping in sneaky blows beneth the belt as they say. ( even with inoccent intentions I cant resist a little jab now and then). do this so I have to opportunity to withdraw an inflamatory statement... please keep the list as short as possible however.
At this stage I am not sure of what you are saying to me as to your position I suppose but I will re read all the posts as maybe I have missed something.
But if you want to play the is isnt game with me thats ok (we both enjoy that stuff I suspect) but if we do that lets not carry the fate of the respective sides on our backs simply to see if we can come up with something to make those of faith feel important enough to us that their concerns are our concerns and appropriate respect available.
I ramble but I am tired. best wishes
alex
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