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Here we go Gravity Rain ..the stage play
Here is my short answer ......
" Where two objects are in close proximity they shield each other from part of the pressure " and since to work on all normal physical levels this pressure must therefore be able to be blocked by both large objects and small. Consider 2 dust motes in space, at some distance from any other significant bodies, but close to each other. Gravity dictates that they will be attracted to each other and will eventually touch ... so for pressure to function in the same way even a dust mote is able to block this pressure to some degree so that they move towards each other by it's tiny blocking of the pressure.
Therefore if we build a solid box, such that it's interior cavity is enclosed in every direction by pressure blocking mass, and place a marble in it, as the pressure has been uniformly blocked in every direction there should be no pressure remaining at all inside, and the marble should be free to float around regardless of any other external pushing or attractive forces.
Alex……………….
Perhaps if you think of a shield as the same as a Roman foot soldier carried will make the concept easier to grasp.
His shield will deflect large particles traveling slow but such a shield only removes a small portion of energy from a very small particle traveling at a relatively high speed. A bullet for example will pass the soldiers shield and him probably and if a smooth jacketed bullet pass through the lot without much sign of it having been there at all. Of course gravity rain wont leave you dead on the ground…. Maybe from boredom but nothing else.
Here is my long answer ......
I applaud your hypothesising here Alex, very interesting. In terms of assuming that a convention, ie gravity, may in fact be truly caused by another force working in a different or even reverse direction has both merit and precedent.
Everyone knows that the "conventional" flow of electricity dictates that electricity flows from positive to negative, but anyone who has studied any electrical theory at all knows that the actual flow of electrons (negatively charged particles) actually flows from negative to positive.
Alex…….. Thanks for the compliment I will hold it close and treasure it with the others I keep in the same place and it is interesting about the electricity anolology but for human experience the positive to negative trip is happily accepted.
(I would also love to launch into my own personal fave here - light bulbs do NOT emit light, they suck dark - but another time perhaps.)
Alex… how can you be so cruel to hold up such a tantalizing morsel and keep it out of reach I am dying to hear more and will be always looking for a thread .. Light bulbs really suck.. what a book title particularly if “Gravity does not suck”. is already on the stands. I want a copy already.
Anyway keeping an open mind - remember, a truly open mind is one that is prepared to forgo ANY conclusion in support of new evidence - lets say that your hypothesis of Universal Pressure for want of a better name still appears to fit all known observations and results as the theory of Gravity, we need to then see if we can find a case in which your new theory either describes some factor of "gravity" better, or if both hypotheses seem to fulfill and explain all known and observed "symptoms" equally then we need to design an experiment of some sort that will allow us to differentiate whether gravitational attraction, or universal pressure, is the true cause.
alex… I agree I feel that dark matter is causing unessary worry and the expenditure of billions and the search for dark matter and dark energy will stop I feel if we simply approach the problem from a different direction that being that gravity acts in the manner I suggest. Dr Einstein gave up on his cosmological constant almost certainly because ewhat he was being faced with was the difficulties fitting the maths with the Universe he contemplated. He probably had to abandon his line of thinking when Mr Hubble announced the Universe was expanding as that would have seemed at odds with where he was heading. He perhaps lacked the confidence to push such a then crazy notion.
Strangely over the past 12 months or more the prospect that he was correct seems to be gathering favour loosely gravity rain may be the animal in real life the doctor found his math drawing were sketching before him.
Does your hypothesis then firstly explain all known attributes of "gravity"? Lets say for the moment that it does (I may come back to this later - it IS well after 3am and I may come up with other thoughts here yet when I'm not hallucinating, and when this green octopus stops bothering me ...... yes yes ok, I will tell him later, leave me alone!)
alex…. I have looked to see if I cn find such but there really is no disagreement between space time and my proposition .space time offers no explanation as to why space is bent toward a mass I simple suggest the machinery by which such takes place.
Anyway ..... so assuming that both hypotheses seem to fit the bill, we then need to devise a test to determine if the universe really DOES push, or whether gravity really does suck (as I've long suspected after falling from a very tall tree as a child). What we would need to do perhaps is to build some form of shielding device wich woudl either block the stream of universal particles, or to block the force of gravitational attraction. If we can devise a method of blocking either one, but not the other, we have proved that the blockable force must exist - you cannot block something that does not exist!
alex…..
You are indeed correct if I fell out of a tree I would say “that sucks” and to build an experiment is as difficult as the current attempt to detect a gravity wave ( a gravity wave being a higher than usual flow of gravity rain in a particular direction producing an imbalance in pressure. I would think that two very large balls spinning in close proxsimity may do this. If gravity rain works as I suggest the wera on the bearings could be inspected which will reveal certain things and without going to deep into that again the problem will be as with other experiments seeking gravity the effects will be miniscule and perhaps beyond our current abilities. I have given up on building such a contraption lets put it tthat way.
I think to give some of the rest of the class a fair go I'll leave this rather mentally stimulating conversation there for now, and I'll go read up on E.E. "Doc" Smiths Skylark series of books, etc - I seem to recall frequent use of Q beams and Z shields (or vice versa - the point is the Q or Z shield was inpenetrable to any "etheric" force, and his definition of the all pervading ether had some interestingly similar tones to your universe wide particle pressure.)
Alex… your reading material is different to mine but I can say that the concept of an ether is again gathering interest as if you think about the many particles flying through an apparently empty part of space there is something there alright in fact if you think about it deeply you will conclude that a “piece”of everything from every wehre passes through äll”given points. Tell me where there is a spot that you can not see the rest of the Universe as it were.
I hope you can grasp my concept and hold it closer and perhaps raise other areas for examination.
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