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dont know them but a general rule of thumb -ebay is not the best place to buy a telescope
you are much better of buying a 6 inch or even better an 8 inch dob from Andrews or if you dont want to spend that much when you are starting out-a perfectly legitimate reservation-consider a 10 x70 or similar pair of binos from Andrews or AOE
you will never regret such a purchase even if you upgrade later..cant say the same for an ebay telescope though
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