thanks heaps for that
it was actually myastro that quoted $4400 for the C11 (non CF) or $4800 for the C11 with CF, so I guess andrews gets a better deal.
more worryingly though i just called andrews and they have a 9.25 in stock and a c11 due in a few days which will concern my wife when she finds out

Bintel has had a price drop it seems as well, the 10" is now $2995. The 12" is $4400 but i doubt my eq6 could support it anyway
The reason for such a large scope even though I'm a newbie is I want to keep this thing for years and years.........do it right the first time sort of thing
cheers