Yeah, sorry for the comparison
It is a real let down visually going from the 12" to the 80. Even in my dark sky I have trouble resolving Trifid in the 80. It's soooooo faint!
But I suppose it wasn't designed for making DSO's bright

It really works excellent for photography though.
I guess I am spoiled with the 12" showing it so clear and bright.
Sorry Stavroz, don't listen to me, listen to them. They say 'Buy a Dob'