I'm playing more than anything Andrew. If I put the FR on the Meade I'd have f/6.3 and 1250mm focal length so plenty of scale there. I'm trying to see if I can convince myself to buy a proper refractor FR. I figure it would be great for taking widefield mosaics. Atm thought the Meade one just doesn't do it for me. In the hi-res version of this shot the stars in the corners are triangles. But if you've got a FR for a refractor handy, I'd love to give it a go