Dale, after reading your last reply I cleaned the terminals(RJ12)(DB9)on Robo controller with alcohol but that didn't work.
Now, what I did notice is that one of the pins on the DB9 coming from the motor was depressed and so I pushed It back out and now the Robo connected to the pc.....that pin has no wiring to It.... assumed It's not used but I guess I assume wrong.....what do they say about assumptions being the mother of?
Thanks for the help guys

appreciated.
ps. too scared to turn It off now