You're not wrong Dennis. I knocked off around 22:30 when Ron went home. The moon was just past the zenith by then.
I think part of my problem with seeing is where I live and the direction I have to shoot. 90% of the time I'm imaging to the east over the hole in the earth they call Nambour (I have a house about 8 feet to my west that blocks everything past the zenith basically). Well Nambour is in a valley so that's sort of a hole.

Then there's a lovely valley that leads off it down to the ocean. I live in the hills at the back of Nambour. So not only do I get to shoot through the rising heat off the town, and all it's lovely wood fires (why in heavens name do you need a wood fire on the coast of SE Qld

) but the wind coming down the valley from the ocean hits the hills and goes straight up

Mind you I'm not complaining (much

) at least I can see some stars most nights. I don't know how you guys in Bris Vegas stand the lights.
Anyway the house is going on the market in the next couple of months and were moving west, to darker more stable climes.