John.....speaking of the 14mm UWA series 4000, I recall going to a dark sky observing session with some friends from the Hamilton Amateur Astronomers club here in Hamilton with my previosly owned 12" GSO reflector.
I was looking for NGC-6946 in cepheus
http://www.wodaski.com/wodaski/image...6-6939.SUM.jpg . I had made a map at home, (like the one in this link), of the surrounding area and started the hunt in the field with my 30mm 1rpd just to get in the general area.
I then zeroed in with the 14mm UWA and used my averted vision to detect this face-on elusive galaxy.
I did see it, but it was on the verge of detection, and it was extremely faint in the 14mm 4k UWA. I'm just wondering if it would have been easier to see in a 13mm TV Nagler with it's newer coatings, etc.
I did read that shootout you did in the forum, but just wanted to tell you about my experience with my 14mm UWA EP and experience in finding that faint galaxy, and get some input from your experienced eyes.
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Mark
8" F/6 Antares Dobsonian (completely flocked and modded)
Looking for a 30mm Ultima
15x70 Celestron Skymasters
10x50 Magnicon binos
Meade 14mm series 4000 UWA
8mm Baader Hyperion (on the way)
2" Barlow
Sony Dig 4.1 Mp Camera