One last word sorry, lets not forget that without good logistics there is no trade, people stop buying they either save their money or look for alternatives, as I have, decided buying parts from OS currently to expensive, and takes to long to get here so I've sourced a local precision machinist to make parts for my Losmandy Mount. I just need to supply the metal, wait a while for him to fit the job in between his primary workload, the cost cheaper than buying even from China and currently quicker