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Old 10-04-2020, 04:12 AM
bgilbert (Barry gilbert)
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. G'day Ray

. With respect, I think you have missed the point, I’m trying to demonstrate a principle that can be adapted to any frequency. The “Photo Electric Effect” is considered a crucial stumbling block for classical theory, I’m basically proposing that metals could have the equivalent of a “High Pass Filter”(HPF) in their surface. The simplest HPF is a hollow open ended cylinder.
. How do you explain the existence and detailed structure of Airy Rings or Point Spread Function(PSF)in your telescope, how do you explain operation or design of the multi anti reflection coatings on your camera or refractor object lens, Young’s two slit, Maser, Laser, Synchrotron.
. Maxwell's equations have no upper frequency limit as far as I am aware. Photon counting is a misnomer, photo-multiplier tubes (PMT) do not exclusively count photons, they count noise and “photons”, and there is no one for one correlation between signal and out put pulses or Feynman’s clicks.
. Radio astronomers often operate at a similar or better signal to noise ratio than QM’s counting photons. The units that radio astronomers use is the Jansky about 1e-26 watts/m^2/Hz moderrn state of the art astronomers using liquid helium etc. use micro Janskys 1e-32 watts/m^2/Hz.
. They also operate in the TeraHertz range. This means that radio astronomers can have a similar RF photon to noise ratio as the QM’s doing photon counting experiments. EPR experimenters do long averaging runs with and without signal and then subtract “dark” counts. There is also two “free parameters” you can adjust, these consist threshold detectors following the PMT’s. The only classical theories that have been rejected by clumsy tests of this type are billiard ball models, all possible no photon, Maxwellian wave models, are alive and well, entanglement, the hinge-pin of the quantum computer, is not proven by the last 40 or so EPR tests. J. S. Bell, although very critical of QM, still accepted the existence of the photon, resulting in all his Bell inequalities, only apply to billiard ball models


. I am one of those extremely rare individuals, that does not believe in photons.
However I’m not completely alone in this belief. Max Plank, often considered to be the father of quantum mechanics, certainly one of the founding members, also did not not subscribe to belief in the photon. In fact, Max and Albert Einstein had heated debates on this matter, ending in damage to their close relationship.
Max believed that discrete units of energy were emitted by matter or atoms, and travelled through space as per Maxwell’s equations. As the field drops off with distance, matter or atoms capable of detecting the field will need help from some other energy source to boost the radiated field that has fallen below a “Plank Unit of Energy” at the detector site.
Max developed a theory, that a sea of energy, just below the level of “Planck’s Constant” exists, this energy plus various sources of noise, provide the missing energy at the detector site.

Albert ignored Max’s theory and published his own theory of “energy packets”, without consulting Max, Max was extremely disappointed, and never contributed much to mainstream quantum mechanics after this incident. Max’s sea of energy had few supporters for many decades, but had somewhat of a renaissance a few years back by a small group that proposed a theory by the name of stochastic electrodynamics (SED), Max’s energy sea is incorporated into this theory, and goes by the name of “Zero Point Radiation”(ZPR). Mainstream Quantum Mechanics(QM) have incorporated a similar sea of energy by the name of “Quantum Noise”(QN), except that they consider it to be “virtual Energy”(VE), rather than “real”, as SED supporters claim. QM’s also claim that “Virtual Particles”(VP) exist in this sea.
. There is a new variation on the SED theory, SED with spin, SEDS


W. E. Lamb Jr. received the Nobel Prize for the measurement of the “Lamb Shift”, one of the two most precise measurement in science. W. E. Lamb Jr. published a paper, titled “Anti-Photon”

Anti-photon W.E. Lamb, Jr. Optical Sciences Center, University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ 85721, USA Received: 23 July 1994/Accepted: 18 September 1994

Appl. Phys. B 60, 77-84 (1995)

“G. Wentzel (1926) and G. Beck (1926) showed that the new quantum theory could describe the photoelectric effect correctly, without any use of "photons" or light quanta, using only a classical time-dependent electromagnetic field. They made use of first-order quantum mechanical perturbation theory applied to an atom. Their theory gave all of the features required by Einstein in 1905, and, in addition, gave an expression for the rate of the photo process. Of course, in 1905 and in 1917, Einstein did not have quantum mechanics (and would not have liked it if he had). In the 1926 work of Wentzel and Beck, the energy of the ejected photo electron was given by the frequency resonance condition of the perturbation theory when its equation was multiplied throughout by Planck's constant. The energy hv of a photon did not enter the calculation in any way, only its frequency v. This problem was given as an exercise in L. Schiffs text book on Quantum Mechanics. Much later, W. E. Lamb and M. O. Scully [9], and H. Fearn, and W. E. Lamb [10] made more detailed calculations on the atomic photoelectric effect.”


. Plank famously stated what’s become known as “Planck’s principle”: “A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die and a new generation grows up that is familiar with it.” In other words, new ideas do not advance by evidence, argument, and persuasion, but rather by older thinkers with older ideas passing away.

. Max's private life was filled with tragedy. His first wife died in 1909, his eldest son was killed in 1916 during World War I, and both his daughters died in childbirth. His home in Berlin was destroyed by fire after an air raid in February 1944, and his second son was suspected of involvement in the plot to assassinate Hitler and executed in 1945.

Cheers Barry
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