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Thanks Ryan, yes they are pretty low still but every morning they rise about 3 minutes earlier. It will be interesting to see how much clearer the views get by July. The other thing I've learned is that the conditions are very important. Sometimes it looks good, but there's high level cloud. Other times I've struck some heavy dews which were no good at all. And this morning was rain and cloud. Hard to get the right conditions when the red spot is there, in the hour or 2 before it gets too daylight. Just have to keep trying. Pics of probably my best Jupiter and Saturn so far:
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