Of course it is well known that the Giza Pyramids do line up with the stars of the belt of Orion.
And some were tombs, but I am not sure about the Giza Pyramids.
I mainly took notice of the mud brick Pyramids of the 12th Dynasty the last these built by Semite Slaves, according to Rosalie David, head of the Egyptian Collection of the Manchester Museum, the Largest Egyptian collection in the Manchester Museum. In her book she says that we do not know who these slaves were, or why they suddenly disappeared from Egypt at the end of the 13th Dynasty.
But I know. Archaeology records like the "Ipuwer Papyrus" does coincide with what is written a book that I am not suppose to mention in ICEINSPACE. That Papyrus tells the same story of the Exodus plagues on Egypt.
Alex, I know it was a couple of days ago that we discussed Iron, but I am only on internet two or three days a week, so here is my answer to that --
the Bible does mention that Iron was worked very early before the flood;
Iron pots, etc. have been dug up in Coal Seams said to be millions of years Old.
Back in the 1970s I was a member of Sydney Speleological Society. We had one member – I forgot his name now decades later-- who was a coal mining geologist from the Illawarra region. I asked him about these Iron artefacts that were dug up in coal and he replied,
“I have seen these artefacts,”
but he did not want to talk much about what he had seen – as a geologist he wrote reports that said that the coal seams were millions of years old – perhaps that is why he did not want to talk about Iron Pots. etc., that were dug up in coal that was said to be between 20 & 100 million years old. A number of members of that Sydney Speleological Society did believe in evolution, so perhaps he did not want to cause controversy by talking of these ancient Iron Artefacts found in that coal.
But it does not take much technology to smelt Iron ore into workable Iron, as this Youtube video does show.
But many ancient races did not have Iron – their races had forgotten how to do this very simple smelting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STFeW0cbB7c
The top of mount Everest, over 8,000 metres 29,000 feet above sea level has sea shells. That is it was once underwater. How many years ago is not important for this discussion.
I was shown a nautilus shell from base camp at Mount EveresT after an in-law did visit there.
So as Everest can rise out of the sea, a city called Atlantis could sink to ocean depths.
Now Noahs flood was mentioned – not by me as far as the first mention in this thread. But was a world wide flood possible ??
Well see the above Post on Everest for a start.
Every Continent of the world has the story of a world wide flood that covered the top of every mountain.
Now most on this forum do not believe the Bible, but Genesis 1 says that “God divided the waters above from the waters beneath.” Some Creationists do think of this “Waters above” as a 40 foot Water Canopy above the atmosphere, that is at the edge of space. This fits many Scientific facts. That would mean, if looking at Earth from Mars back then, it would appear a bit like Venus, us not being able to see down to the surface of the planet.
But let us look at some other possible explanations, For example say this planet once had Rings of Water as in Saturns rings, around it, which did collapse, causing that recorded world wide flood ??
There is at least one moon of Frozen water in our Solar System. What if one previously was knocked out of orbit, and headed down to out world. Could that have happened in the past ??
What about a large comet or comets, which are basically dirty snowballs. What if they hit the earth.
Or perhaps a combination of more than one of these.
I tend to believe the water canopy, perhaps frozen as Ice, but am open on tis matter. But the possibilities from what we do know about our solar system are also interesting – none should set their ideas in concrete, but be open to other ideas.
Oh and volcanic eruptions can put out enormous amounts of Superheated water If that was pushed to the edge of space by volcanic erpuptions that could have bought down any such a water canopy..
I mean, even Alex is a heretic because he doubts the Big bang -- I have not yet rejected that Big Bang theory, but do listen to other ideas.
This is what hat “Heretic” Alex said earlier [If the inquisition was still going they would also burn me at the stake for Heresy]:--
“Me I am very lucky I don't believe in anything or that anything I hear is necessarily the truth..heck I don't buy the big bang theory and that seems to be proved beyond doubt...but with humans we can tell each other we have it all worked out and so any one who may see an alternative or a flaw is never taken seriously and usually attacked and labled a fool, a nutter, etc... but it is funny how through out history we can often see that these nutters have been vindicated and the mob who thought they knew it all proved to be just wrong.”
Oh Alex, you stated that you have problems with the big bang. I have not fully rejected the big bang as yet, but do see that there could be another explanation of the universe.
I have a DVD video called “Big Problems with the Big Bang.” Problem for you is it is a DVD by Creationists.
Alex said:--
“So I like sitting on the fence...when it all boils down...I don't know...I have to rely on others to interpret their findings, I have to accept that they made correct interpretations...now all that tells me there is no point in taking a stand on anything at all...take big bang..basically it stands or falls on the universe expanding..and all say it is and all say there measurements tests reseach etc is correct and everyone around are all satisfied that they have the expansion down pat...and now no one will every look at the possibility that our observations supporting expansion could be flawed... tired light explains red shift a little voice at the back of the room murmers...heritic, fool, nutter, crank throw him out, banish him...well what if that poor fool is correct? the big bang can only be a mirage... now I don't say I know either way but I doubt that we say unequivocally that we really do know...and then think who came up with the idea...someone who has been raised with a preoccupation of a creation...so I see there could be vested reasons for a support that really don't want that little voice in the back of the room questioning anything at all...so remaining unconvinced either way is my way of dealing with everything no matter how well it is established researched etc....”
Normally I do not read the magazine, “New Scientist,” but pick up a second hand copy, because it had an article, “What if the Speed of Light is infinite.” Yes if the Speed of light was infinite the universe would be smaller than currently thought.
Yes that would change a real lot of so called Science – E=MC squared, etc.
That magazine pointed out that one cluster of distant galaxies all do have different red shifts, where it is accepted that they all are roughly the same distance from our sun, etc. Now not having a P.HD in Astrophysics [no qualifications at all in that field – have read a few bits of books on this. Do have a copy of an “Encyclopaedia of Astronomy and Astrophysics” that my wife purchased for me for one dollar from a table of second hand books. She also got another astronomy text book at one dollar], I do not plan on discussing this “WHAT IF” any further as I will be out of my depth.
But as I did say elsewhere, it appears that the Speed of Light is actually slowing down, because every time the Speed of Light is measured, the results are for a lower speed.
Alex, perhaps you are wrong and Gravity actually SUCKS at that light slowing it down – Ha Ha
No Alex, I am not serious.