[Starcrazzy]

[quote=netwolf]Starcrazy,

Science is also man made, and to some it would seem that it to has become a faith. Science started the car, i dont think so. Without the will of a person wanting to start the car the car would not start.

I disagree..it is nothing but science that starts that car...if you take a link out of the chain rection that causes that car to start ie, the fuel, or the battery, and that car will not start...you can will it to start all you like..you can even pray and ask god to start the car...but i garentee, it won't start..In fact...lets use the scientific method to see if your statement or hypothasis that it is the will of the person that starts the car, is true or not...get in your car, will with all your might that the car won't start..i mean really will it not to kick over...then turn the key...if it starts whats happend to your hypothesis..thats right, the science still works, weather you will it or not...

and yes i do speak of science as if it were a system of beliefs...what is it if it isn't??yes, it is a method for which we come to find the truth's of our universe, and thus, believe in them...i am confronted daily by creationist's who only take from science that which doesn't contradict thier faith..and that's why you end up with wacko theories full of half truth's and bad science..

i appolagise if in my previous post's i offended you , but i can't find any mention (by me) of you going off topic..