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Old 09-06-2018, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by clive milne View Post
Switzerland has a gun ownership rate of 24.5%... but that doesn't tell the whole story. That figure fails to acknowledge the 'government owned' assault rifle
That's it. An SG-550 in every bedroom of any serving member of the Swiss Army/Reserves. A people who seem to know how to behave amongst each other - civilised one could say.

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Ergo... Japan with 160x less guns per capita, has almost 150% higher suicide rate. (compared to the US)
Been to Japan 11 or so times. Everything has rubber edges and fences on high spaces. They compete with South Korea for the suicide high score. They compete with the whole world for productive output, and collectively it drives them crazy. Again, mental health.

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and theres proven statistics out there that show that the suicide rate is higher in rural Australia because of the access to guns.
Suicide method differs most greatly by gender. There is a big difference between suicide attempt, and suicide completion. Both male, and female suicide attempts are roughly equal in number. However males chose methods which are faster acting, and more affective in achieving death (Gun, burning, hanging). This compares to females, who typically choose drug overdose, poison, bleeding out, ect, which takes time (and thus opens opportunity for rescue, remorse, etc).

The end result is that males appear to have a "higher" suicide rate. Male, rural workers have the amongst the highest suicide completion rate, due to social isolation (less supervision), and greater access to fast acting means (farm machinery, fuels, and as you indicated, guns). Another high ranker in suicide completion are indigenous males outside of major cities. Interestingly, they have exceptionally low rates of firearm licences.

Source: Words from an ex-director of Beyond Blue, who delivers insightful lectures where I work. He hates guns as much as anyone here, but concedes removing them alone will solve little.