[AndyG (Andy)]

Originally Posted by xelasnave

Thanks I have another in mind which is guaranteed to take our minds off the clouds.
Alex

Look forward to it You guys wouldn't be too upset if I casually mention that I haven't seen a single cloud in Townsville since the eclipse? Jupiter looked gorgeous 5am this morning near zenith

Originally Posted by N1

Congrats to Alex for starting yet another traffic-generating thread monster during a lean time of year (astronomy wise)

2nd'd. Bring 'em on!

Originally Posted by Tropo-Bob

George Washington was offered more power for his role, but declined it. He understood the dangers in that offer.

Alexander the Great & Julius Caesar and then in was downhill from there.

I guess the notion of "too much power" was a fresh experience for them at that time. Wise choice really. As for the next downfall, sounds like a hell of a ride. I have no argument against the possibility of that. How's our home arsenals stocked?

Originally Posted by AstralTraveller

However I can not agree that he is a moron... but no one gets to that sort of position, especially while going against the political status quo, by being a moron.

You're right. I must retract that inclusion echoed earlier. Personally, everyone makes mistakes in speech, but the forces guiding him (both within and externally to him) are on point - to whatever agenda/desired result. It's mentioned in psychology circles that being a successful liar requires greater intelligence than acting openly/honestly. Whether keeping track of the BS is maintained by him, or his team is largely irrelevant to the end result.

I still stand by the point that being a successful politician requires low (no?) moral fibre. This is something that I think Trump takes more credit than is warranted - he's in no (zero) way unique here.