Ok I have made my mind up
I'm going with the Skywatcher. I have found another supplier locally who will sell it for $689. and $1 delivery along with a Barlow doubler. I will add a 32mm Plossl and I think an ND96 ( I am starting with the moon can't miss that I hope). The Orion cheshire Collimater seems the one to go for from Bintel.
Now the hard part no stocks for three weeks on the Dob . Well all good things come to those who wait ... but not for too long !
Thanks to all those who helped. Get ready the next step how to use it is coming soon
Steve