[areyouabus (Pauly)]

Thanks for the ideas. I use sky safari already with my telrad, maybe i just have too much light pollution for any fuzzys higher than 7 mag. The day someone converts an autoguider into a push to service, they will make a lot of money.
The encoders sound good but cost nearly as much as upgrading to a goto mount.

For now i might have to look at an orion 70mm multi use finderscope and permanently keep my panoptic in it. Or invest in the widest fov eyepiece like a 42mm gso superview.

Thanks again!