Considering it was relatively early and I believe the Toucam is the equivalent of a 6mm ep. Plus was using a 5x powermate, at a focal length of 1000mm. the sums add up to a humungus magnification value, so not surprised that there was some breakdown. Through the ep at 400x was very clear, was quite impressed I must admit. So just have to get the "Knack" and hopefully might come up with something very nice. Must admit I would be buggered without the help of Paul. It is good fun trying though.