They're two new toys for planetary imagers Ken. One is a modification of bird's ppmcentre (from DOS command line driven to windows graphic user interface) and the other is a developement by hitchhiker to split bmps into seperate rgb channels. He's taken a job that can take me more than 3 days to have an output from registax for 25 avies and cut it down to 8 hours. Damn sexy if you ask me.