Had much much better results tonight with the short tube 80
Only thing that mucked be up a bit was that I couldn't get the sharpcap polar alignment routine working with the shorttube 80 - presumably there is too much focal length. I am finding the ASPA combined with the freakishly good goto's of starsense is getting me about 4-5 arc minutes close to PA, which seemed good enough. Had a try of metaguide - not bad. I dont like the fact that you have to center the star to do calibration. That was pretty annoying.